EP9 – What is your social media personality? Plus fitness & movement in midlife with guest Jana Barrett

Hello and welcome to self startups. So today I’m going to be talking about social media personalities, and how to make the best of your personality type on your social media platforms. And a little bit later, I’m going to be talking to Jana Barrett on movement as you get older and keeping fit as you age.

So what’s your favourite social media platform?

Your social media platform of choice will depend on your personality type. If we were all the same, it would be very boring, wouldn’t it? Finding your home on social really helps your business move forward. If you’re a natural, it’s going to show in the way you interact with other users and let’s face it, it’s going to be a lot more enjoyable for you and for them.

Which social media platform is right for you?

Maybe you love to appear on camera then Tik ToK, YouTube, Snapchat, or Instagram might appeal. Of course, YouTube is more of a search engine than social media platform, but you all knew that. Perhaps you are a chatterbox, in which case Clubhouse, Facebook groups or Twitter spaces will be your thing. What about if creative as your jam? You might like Instagram or Pinterest. Although the latter again is more of a search engine. If you are your brand, your brand identity and your [00:02:00] personality will drive your activity across social media, this will help you to grow an audience of like-minded people. And that’s key. That’s what you want.

You don’t have to be all things to all people when you’re just starting out. There’s plenty of time for that when you get to the stage where you’ve got a marketing agency to work with or a social media team that you employ.

Find your social niche and run with it. And don’t forget to have fun.

Next I’m going to be talking to Jana Barrett.

Fitness & movement for midlife women

Jana is an active surfer, fitness and movement coach based in New Zealand. We’re going to be talking about mobility, keeping the body moving as we age and exercising in mid-life. So if you starting to creak at the joints, this is worth tuning into, or if like so many of us, you spend way too many hours sat at a desk it’s also worth a listen.

Hello! Hello. [00:03:00] So today I’m going to be talking to Jana Barrett. She is. You won’t be able to see this in the audio, but she is standing in front of the most beautiful picture window with the sun rising in New Zealand on Saturday morning. And she is a fitness and movement coach. And she’s got a Facebook group, which we’ll talk about a bit later and we’re going to talk about moving more in mid-life aren’t we? Hi Jana.

Jana Barrett: Absolutely. Hello Annette. So lovely of you to have me here.

Annette Clubley: It’s a pleasure. It’s a pleasure. I absolutely love your Facebook group. I love the the videos that you do in your Facebook group. And I followed along in some of your challenges, which is quite interesting because I think I’m pretty classic, you know, sit at a desk all day, you know, I don’t move enough, I don’t think.

And I think there’s an awful lot of us that are in the same boat.

Jana Barrett: Absolutely. Yeah. It’s the curse of the modern lifestyle. Yeah. Our bodies don’t like very much.

Annette Clubley: It is, exactly. Because it’s not the way nature intended is it? We’re not [00:04:00] supposed to sit as still, as we do for such long periods of time.

Jana Barrett: No, we’re not, we’re definitely not.

No. We supposed to be kind of squatting all day long tending to fires and cooking and things like that and hunting and running and yeah, definitely it doesn’t. Yeah, it doesn’t suit the human body to be sitting down for long periods of time. Yeah. And we were paying for it, paying for a dearly.

Annette Clubley: Mm hm, and I think one of the things I loved, I mean, I grew up in Zimbabwe and I loved that. That was such a brilliant way to grow up. And I think even as you go older there, you tend to still stay active because the weather is so good and you’re out a lot all the time. And you know what I mean? You don’t have to make plans cause you know, the weather is going to be fine this weekend. And so you go out and I found the same thing traveling in Australia actually was that there was an older generation of people who were actually fitter than I was because they’ve continued that moving all the time. They’ve never lost it. They continued to play sport or whatever.

Why it is important to keep moving as we get older

Jana Barrett: Yeah and I think you really touched on the most important [00:05:00] point here is you just can’t stop moving in some way. It doesn’t matter. You know, you don’t have to join the nearest CrossFit gym. You know, I think, I think people, I think people overcomplicate exercise.

I think they think that it needs to have an hour, hour and a half. They need to go somewhere. They need to buy all this gear and you know pay lots of money, but it actually can be really, really simple. You know, we’re going to be talking about mobility because that’s, that’s, that’s my jam. That’s, that’s what I do.

I kind of, I help people move better and preserve. You know, their bodies and the functionality of their bodies. So they can do amazing things till super, super old age. Like I was on a holiday in January and I was surfing, which is a really physically demanding sport. I was surfing with 2 72 old. 72 year olds and they were surfing hours and hours.

And it only goes to show that you just cannot stop. And you just need to do a little bit of maintenance [00:06:00] on the, on this beautiful shell that’s walking you around the planet, right? Because without our bodies would just be a fluff of energy floating somewhere around this place.

Annette Clubley: Yeah, and you only get one.

Jana Barrett: And you know, like it starts hurting and it’s, that’s you know, going downhill as, you know, once you hit mid-life things just suddenly are not the same. Right. Aches, little pains. This doesn’t feel quite right. I can’t do this quite as well as I used to. And it’s what I hear every day.

Yeah. Oh yeah. I used to surf, but I can’t anymore. You know, that makes me sad. That what motivates me to, to keep with people and. And yeah, do this, do this work just to get people back on the trails or back on their bikes or back on the surf board or just living their daily life, you know, being able to have the two bags of groceries and carry them into your house or mop the floor, you know, get out of a car in an easy way. [00:07:00]

Annette Clubley: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You talk about that. But you know, we have television programs here in the UK that follow people who so immobile that they cannot clean their houses. And so they literally sit in their chairs all day, every day and they gradually their position get, you know, their, their house home gets less and less hygienic as time goes on and they bring in these teams of people to clean it all up for them. And you’re just, I, I think that’s terrible. I just think it’s a real shame that these people have been allowed to just or have allowed themselves to just stop moving completely.

Jana Barrett: It’s not living. It’s surviving. If you can’t hop off your chair and go for a nice walk then then you’re not living you’re surviving.

Is gym necessary to keep fit?

Annette Clubley: No, exactly, exactly, exactly. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I’m really glad you said you don’t have to go to gym because of course that is, I think that puts lots of people off. I think the fact that you don’t want to go, you don’t want to compare yourself to anybody else, especially as you get older, [00:08:00] you don’t worry that the class might be too complicated for you or too fast for you or whatever, or that the whole class will be full of, you know, teens or 20 year olds or whatever. And you’re going to be the person who stands out. And yeah, yeah, yeah. And I don’t think it has to be complicated. I think you can move without having to join a program necessarily.

Jana Barrett: No, not really, you know, you know what I, what I teach in my Facebook group, it’s it’s little, tiny, 10, 15 minute routines that you can do in your pajamas really. If that’s calling to you from the corner of your bedroom, because yeah, like you can go for bike rides and you can do some training and you can go swimming or whatever. But I think what people are forgetting about is just a little bit of mobility movements. And, you know, I know that mobility is just starting to really come to the forefront in the fitness industry, because people are realizing that we’ve been chasing these workouts and repetitions and performance. And, and then we are forgetting that our bodies actually often, [00:09:00] especially in mid life as a woman, we’re not really. Benefiting from these full-on crazy workouts that often really upsets our hormones.

And it’s just a bit much, isn’t it, you know, the kind of full on, and, you know, I’ve fallen into that trap too. You know, when I was just killing myself and breaking my body, doing these certifications with, with crazy guys and you know, and now I’m kind of like, you know what, it doesn’t really suits me and my hormones.

There’s a lot of research done about trying to adjust your workouts to your menstrual cycle and how it flows naturally throughout the month. That’s how you should kind of be designing smartly your workouts as well, but mobility and some kind of yoga based fluid movements. It’s really all you need to do to maintain bit of strength that abundance city for us women, because we tend to lose that as we age and then just keeping the body moving the way it was designed. So, you know, taking, moving, being able to move your [00:10:00] joints through the full range of motion, without any restrictions without stiffness.

Because these days, you know, you get up and you’re like, ah, that tight back and I’ve got tight shoulders. You know, nothing’s kind of working as well, but you do 10 or 15 minutes of mobility movements or some body flows.

And suddenly it feels like you are injecting yourself with a bit of energy and bit of kind of vitality, and then you making the body move and you just feel taller and stronger and, and you just feel amazing. Yeah. And that’s like 15 minutes. You know, everybody can find 15 minutes in their day to work on their physical body, because the thing is that if your physical body feels good, you feel good too.

Annette Clubley: Yes. Yes. And then it has ramifications throughout your life because you then go out with more energy. And you, you know what I mean, your attitude changes because you’re feeling better. And it has a whole lot of impact in all sorts of other areas outside of the physical.

Finding time to exercise

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I am really glad that [00:11:00] you touched on time, because I think time is probably the thing that most people probably I should imagine you find this .People come to you and they say, oh no, no, no, ache, pain, groan, et cetera. Oh. But I haven’t got the time to exercise.

Jana Barrett: I say to that, to that I say, are you on social media? They said, yes. And I’m like, in that case, you have time to exercise.

Annette Clubley: Yeah. How many hours of television do you watch every evening?

Jana Barrett: Yeah, that’s right, it’s about priorities. It’s about priorities or, or when I suggest just get up 15 minutes earlier and they have this horror look on their faces. What! I’m like, you can, you can, it’s a bad habit. It’s a bad habit.

Annette Clubley: You can, you can. And even if you don’t do it, first thing in the morning, you can snatch that time at other times during the day.

Jana Barrett: Absolutely. I often think that in the morning, there’s like the excuses don’t [00:12:00] quite pile up just yet. You know, when you just wake up in the morning and you literally just put your exercise gear on or not totally do it in your pajamas, then that is kind of.

You know, as, as the day goes on, it’s kind of like, oh, I’ve got an extra meeting and the kids need me to pick you, pick them up now. And, oh, I haven’t cooked dinner. I haven’t picked up dinner. Oh, I’m just too tired. I haven’t eaten enough food. I haven’t drank enough water throughout the day. You know, I’m just too tired. I’ll do it tomorrow. I’ll do it tomorrow. The excuses will pile up. Whereas if you really go in the morning, there’s like. There’s nothing in your way. Apart from that alarm clock and the snooze button.

Annette Clubley: That’s really funny. I’ve never thought about that. I’m a morning person, myself, and I don’t have any problem getting up that little bit earlier, but I’m actually exercising in the late afternoon at the moment. And that is partially the get up from my desk and do [00:13:00] something. You know? And it has made an amazing difference to me, really amazing difference to me.

And the other thing that’s made a difference is going out and walking. And you touched on that earlier as well. Just walking is just so very good for you and, you know, getting out into nature is really good for you, but.

Jana Barrett: Yeah. You know, because then you starting to touch onto the, kind of the mental and emotional health as well.

Because for us to think that the physical, the emotional and mental are somehow separate, it’s not true. We are just one unit and you know that after you’ve been exercising, you just feel amazing, right? You feel good about yourself. You don’t have those crazy thoughts. Like, oh, I’m not good enough. I don’t look good enough.

You know? So it’s affecting the mental health as well. And, and the emotional health, you just feel good. And the other way around, it just works kind of, it’s a unit. You can look at it in three different separate compartments. So I think exercising in nature, especially [00:14:00] for women. It’s really good. We like being outside and I coach people outside most of the time, if I can, even if the weather is not perfect.

’cause I think we don’t spend enough time in nature. We don’t move in nature, but doesn’t that make you feel good? Because you’re soaking up the energy from, I dunno, where you walk on it, but you know, the forest or, I mean, we’re really lucky here. I mean, look at it. I live in New Zealand. We just have the most amazing nature in our backyard. So we’re really lucky. If I lived in the middle of the London, but you know, I lived in the middle of London for five years and..

Annette Clubley: Did you?

Jana Barrett: Yeah. Yeah. I used to cycle to work every day through all the parks. Yeah. It was, you can find a little place in most places. And I think it’s really important for us to just leave our caves and and get out in the air. It’s then I think you’re getting the full benefit on your, not only on your physical wellbeing, because you’re walking and moving, but also the emotional and mental, because it just makes us feel good. Doesn’t it? [00:15:00]

Annette Clubley: It does it, does. It makes a huge difference every day. Yeah. Yeah. You are right, you can find it, even if you’re in a suburban I’m I’m living in the suburbs, but I’m lucky enough to live on the border of Wales. So, you know, there are a lot of walks in very easy reach of my home now. But even in a city you can find them in parks and that kind of thing. So there really is no excuse.

Exercise routines that work for women in midlife

Jana Barrett: There isn’t. Even I can make excuses. I have deadlines. I can, you know, yes you can, of course you can. Yeah. And I think that’s what people in midlife need to really realize that and often I find with women, women in the midlife really come to their own. It’s a really kind of pivotal special time in a woman’s life because we usually, our children are a bit bigger and we’ve settled into everything, our careers and we really come to our own where we just don’t, don’t kind of think about what other people think so much, we become more [00:16:00] assertive, and we know who we are. Often women change careers into something really amazing and meaningful as well, but it’s the time where the physical is starting to fall apart. So now we’re in this amazing time where we kind of like, okay, what, what amazing things am I going to do for the next half of my life?

And often physical body doesn’t quite match where we at. So that’s why I chose to work. And obviously, because I’m a woman in midlife as well. So I understand this age group and, and, and women in midlife like to be coached by women in midlife. We don’t want to be coached by a 20 year old guy. Who’s got no idea.

Annette Clubley: No

Jana Barrett: Yeah! They can turn up and they say, I’ll just got my period. I feel like shit, I don’t want to work out today. And it’s totally okay. I totally understand how she feels. She can say it it’s easy. There’s no awkwardness. And then we can adjust the workouts or whatever, you know, she said, so, so I think that in midlife, we really need to [00:17:00] start looking after this because we’re so awesome.

And if this falls apart, that’s going to stop us from being awesome and powerful and doing some amazing things in the world. Yeah. I think the world needs more strong, powerful women, and often. Getting some physical strength and getting empowered by moving your body will then translate into other parts and other areas in your life.

Right? Because do you agree that, you know, like I see it all the time, you know, women suddenly master some movements or they get rid of their permanent pain, their chronic pain or whatever. And suddenly they’re like, wow, like bring it on.

And I see this all the time, all the time. Timid woman in pain. And then, you know, in three, six months she’s like, you know, take me on.

Annette Clubley: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. There’s nothing like getting rid of pain because pain really [00:18:00] grinds you down if you have it for a long period of time. So if you can get rid of it and start feeling better, then that just makes a wealth of difference.

I’m really glad you touched on the cycle as well, because I think one of the things about being older is that you stop, as you say, you stop worrying about what other people think about you, but also you start taking a bit more care of yourself. I think you start thinking it’s okay for me to be this little bit selfish every now and then.

And that means that you can then balance it on a day when you’re really, really feeling terrible. You don’t push yourself through it. You can give yourself permission to go. Okay for today because I know tomorrow I will get up and I’m going to do this, and I’m not making excuses on a long ongoing exercise.

I’m just saying right now, I’m not up to this and I’m going to give myself that break and then you can come back stronger. I think, than if you’ve constantly pushed yourself. [00:19:00]

Jana Barrett: Yeah. And this is something that mainstream kind of fitness doesn’t really allow for because you turn up into your F 45,. I don’t know if you have F 45 or CrossFit or intensity training and you turn up and there’s one workout for everyone.

There’s one workout for the 20 year old guy. Who’s like can go forever. You know, the whole range, but women we are different. Our hormones are different every single day. And as we you know, entering the perimenopause and menopause. You know, things get quite full on for us. We often lose sleep and we’re, you know, our joints that aching and there’s, there’s a whole bunch of things that we are experiencing.

And, and I think that, what, what are we really missing is coaches that understand this. That, I can be here and ride my perfect workout for someone because I coach people face-to-face as well. My perfect workout. Oh, it’s just perfect. And then I get this person through the door and I can see, and they tell me I haven’t slept very well [00:20:00] last night.

I’m really stressed out at work. I I’m just about to get my period or you know, I feel hormonal and emotional and all over the place. So then I, okay. My perfect workout out the window because that’s not going to work anymore because I have this person in front of me that are already a little bit stressed.

You know, they haven’t slept, they’re having a lot on their plate. And so I need to now adjust their workout or their exercise to the human being that I have in front of me that is already stressed because physical exercise is stress. It’s a good stress on our bodies and it’s a stress that we need.

However, our nervous system doesn’t recognize it as a good stress. It’s just a stress. If you’ve already filled your cup, literally with little bit of not sleeping, that’s a layer of stress. You’ve got a lot of your work, another layer of stress, and then I’m going to put you through a full on workout.

That is what can potentially then overflow the cup. So if I have a [00:21:00] person like this in front of me, okay, we’re going to move because that’s going to make you feel better and you’ve already paying for the session, or you already know you want to move, but we’re going to turn it right down. We’re just going to do mobility, some breathing and some flows, and then that’s going to be your workout today.

And next time when you turn up and you’re like, wow, I feel amazing. I’m not stressed at all. Then we’re going to go and then, you know, take advantage of that state and we’re going to push. Yeah. We’re going to push, it’s got a responsible person. You’re going to push when you can. And when you can’t, you just going to still move because it’s good to move and it’s good to kind of remove that stress by mindful movement and breathing, but I’m not going to put you through this.

And I think that’s what a lot of coaches don’t understand. And then I get in my group, I have a lot of women who have destroyed their bodies by exercise. And they’re not that happy, they just completely destroyed the exercise and there are in a huge injury [00:22:00] cycle. They just can’t get out of it. They have adrenal fatigue and we think that exercise is really good for us, but it can actually be really bad for us sometimes.

Annette Clubley: Mm. Mm. And that’s part of the thing about, I don’t want to go to the gym with the 20 year old bloke who’s going to tell me what to do, because I’ve got lots of friends who have done that and they have had the wrong exercise for them, and they’ve built up the wrong muscles and they completely changed shape some of them because it’s not been designed for a woman and it’s not been designed for an older woman.

It’s, you know, it’s been designed for an athletic young man. And it’s just completely the wrong routine for them, so, yeah. Yeah. And, but also more importantly, you’ve talked about that you were a little bit kinder you have that little bit more kindness towards yourself and you just go it’s okay. I will keep moving.

But I’m not going to push it today. And then tomorrow when I feel better, I’m going to do something about it and you can go with that flow, can’t you?

Stress eating and why you should listen to your body

Jana Barrett: Oh, absolutely. You know, like I I lost a [00:23:00] friend last week, so I was under a lot of emotional stress.

Annette Clubley: Oh no.

Jana Barrett: And I had the funeral, and I know like I need to listen to my body.

Like my body did not want to exercise. It wanted to go for walks. It wanted to go for runs and, and I think that we actually, as women have an incredible intuition and we can tune into what our bodies really want. If we. If we kind of establish that communication between our bodies and us, because often we suppress it.

We don’t like the way our bodies look. We think you should look a certain way. We punish our bodies, you know, like, oh, I’m going to have that doughnut, but I’m going to like do cardio for an hour tomorrow. Eat the doughnut! Enjoy.

You know, i think if you just stop looking at your body, that it’s supposed to a certain way and certain image, and it’s supposed to like, you know, it looks the way it looks. It’s fine. It’s okay. And I think at this [00:24:00] stage, you know it’s more about self-love and acceptance. Hey, I’m 44. I had three children. It’s not going to be the same, I’m not going to look like a 16 year old in posters.

You know, I’m never going to do that. But I think where was I going with this? Yeah. So if we, if we establish this communication, your body actually tells you on a daily basis, what it wants to do, you can tune into it. And sometimes somebody say, Hey, today, we’re going to push. I feel like, like, I feel like lifting something and swinging something and I feel good, but some days it’s kind of like, do you know.

Take your dog for a walk today. That’s that’s where it’s at today. Or, or just do some mobility or something to do something still, but adjust, ask your body what it wants to eat, how it wants to move, you know, who it wants to hang out with. And yeah, so I think we have incredible intuition and but we don’t often listen to it. That’s what i was going to say..

I actually, when I went to the funeral, I was driving home and I had [00:25:00] overwhelming craving for chips. So crisps yeah, so just salty crisps. So if you ask my kids, I don’t like eating that at all. They often do. And I just kind of have one, is that? Yeah, whatever. But after the funeral overwhelming. I slipped into a supermarket I bought a massive bag of crisps and I ate it and I was like, what the heck is going on?

And then I found out someone that when your adrenals are under stress, which, you know, when you grieving and you’re going to a very emotionally charged place, you are really loading your adrenals. So adrenals consume an amazing amount of sodium. So my body was consuming sodium that, that overwhelming desire for crisps.

So the only thing I could, I could have for dinner. So then you actually realize my body asked for exactly the thing that it needed at that time. But you need to listen to it? Because if I was in some dieting cycle, I’d be like, no, no, [00:26:00] no, you can’t have crisps.

Annette Clubley: You can’t have those..

Jana Barrett: You know, like that’s not it, but I’m like, no, no, no, I’m going to go for it because, because this is what I need.

And I normally don’t eat that kind of stuff. It’s just, doesn’t float my boat. Yeah. It’s interesting. When you really listen to your body, it will tell you exactly what it needs and movement will be same. Yeah.

Annette Clubley: That’s absolutely fascinating. Isn’t it?

Jana Barrett: Yeah. I had a client who had adrenal fatigue and was craving salt for like a year, and then it took her a long time to find out what it was. So, yeah. So if you’re really sad, and under a lot of stress and you crave for crisps, go for it.

Annette Clubley: That’s why.

Jana Barrett: But give me fitness and movement coach recommending doughnuts and crisps. I love her! I want her as a coach!

Sometimes not always.

Annette Clubley: Yeah, exactly. [00:27:00] Exactly. It’s everything in moderation. Isn’t it? It is everything in moderation, you know,, you have the donut and then don’t berate yourself. Don’t punish yourself for it. It’s fine. Not every day, all day, but you know what I mean? I think you’ve got to have that kind of balance. You can’t eat the same stuff all the time.

Jana Barrett: Oh. You know, kale can only cut it for this long, you know, like kale is amazing, but sometimes it’s like a doughnut is the only thing that would cut it today. Or chocolate.

Annette Clubley: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Jana Barrett: So I think people just listen to their bodies more and just be a little bit smarter about it and get out of this punitive fitness thing, you know. Exercise should be pleasurable. You should feel good. You shouldn’t go because you have to, and you should enjoy it. My clients here, and they’re kind of like, I can’t wait for my next session. Well, that’s. Yeah. It doesn’t matter what, what they lifted or what they did, but like they want to come back.

So that’s the most important thing to [00:28:00] me. That’s like the feedback.

Annette Clubley: Yes. And even if you’re not in a one-on-one session with someone, even if you make a decision today that you’re going to do a little bit more movement and you’re going to start building it into your day, the more enjoyable it is, the more likely you are to stick with it.

Jana Barrett: Yeah. Just find something that really speaks to you, whether it’s at an, I don’t know, I surf that’s that’s that’s that’s my jam. That’s that’s what makes me feel just amazing. And, and, but I probably surf more for mental health than anything else, but find something that, that, that you enjoy because life is short. Why. We know we have to do so many things we don’t enjoy work sometimes, taking out the rubbish, you know, cleaning.

It just needs to get done, but we don’t necessarily enjoy it, but, but yeah. Do something that you really enjoy. Go with some friends too, you know, go and take a friend for a walk or go to yoga class or it doesn’t, it doesn’t really matter. Do anything, play tennis. You know, do something because then [00:29:00] when you do these outside things, you just kind of hitching lots of different things, not just the physical, but the connection and community and nature, time, time outside.

So definitely there’ll be mindfulness find something that really, that you enjoy because yeah. As you said, you’re more likely to stick to it.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And it gives you that more healthy whole because you get that, you get the community and then you get the health and you get the nature and all of that helps you in a healthy whole.

Annette Clubley: Yeah. Okay. So you told us that you work with people one-on-one.

Jana Barrett: If you live in beautiful Wellington.

Annette Clubley: So, you have to live in Wellington. Exactly what I was just about to say.

So you work with people one-on-one so that’s great. If they’re local to you, how do you work with people in a more broader picture? How can you work with people online? And do you work with people online?

Jana Barrett: Yeah, I do. I do. I actually have clients all over the world, which is amazing. Yeah, it’s incredible. I get a real kick out of that.

I have [00:30:00] a online program, so it’s a fully body weight mobility and body flows online program, 12 weeks and I’ve got range of options and I’ve got some mini programs as well. I’ve got a whole bunch of little mini workshops on my website if people just want a little bit of taste, but if you just want to see what I do and you are a woman, then hop into my Facebook group. Yeah. That’s probably where I do training every single week. You know that because you’re in it. Yeah. So lots of free training. I love to help people because you know, not everybody has the resources or the, you know, the commitment to commit to big three months programs.

And sometimes you just need to have a little bit of a taste of what people are like. And if, if this type of training suits you, but I essentially do lots of mobility movements. And then I as you experienced, Annette that I do body weight, strength movements. Then, then I combine into flows. And I think this type of training really speaks to women because it’s about fluidity.

And, but there’s a strength component to it because I often think that women [00:31:00] forget that we need. Because walking is wonderful and yoga is wonderful. And there’s a lot of things that we do that are great, but we really need to think about preserving our muscle mass and bone density as we age. So we do need to stress the body a little bit.

So do some, maybe gentle push-ups or planks and something like that. They will load the upper body a little bit and make the bones, you know, stay nice and strong. So that’s what I do. Lots of mobility. So I essentially, what I probably do best is I either build together people that are a little bit broken, they have some injuries and just can’t get rid of injuries or people that are in pain, or I help people maintain their body so they can do the things they love.

So I, I coach a lot of surfers and some runners, and then I also coach women that just want to find some gentler exercise regime, which will tick all the boxes, you know, the mobility, flexibility, strengths, strength, strengthen the core. [00:32:00] So all over conditioning and toning of the muscles without having to use any equipment, because it’s all my program is the whole body weight.

Yeah. And, you know, I often actually find their body weight movements that hardest cause that it’s. Yeah. And you can, you can develop some decent amount of strength just by what I mean, calisthenics, you know, Maybe we’ll do push ups and pull-ups and all these crazy movements, it’s all body weight. And they are pretty strong.

So you can get actually strong from, from just body weight movements, but the body flows introducing their kind of fluid component, which is a little bit like dancing and it’s. It’s a really nice, mindful way had to move because you synchronize it with breath and you are kind of flowing, which is really nice.

I like that. I do body flows every day. Yeah. With that.

Annette Clubley: Hmm. It’s very yoga. Like isn’t it. It’s very, yeah. Very, it is very mindful. You’re right. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Do you ever work with people one-to-one [00:33:00] online?

Jana Barrett: Yeah, I do. So, so the program that I have the 12th week, the midlife movement program you can get it with a one-on-one coaching package or you can get it with a group coaching package, but I do see people because I, what I do with clients, face-to-face I use ancient warrior tools for conditioning, the human body. So I used like club bells, kettlebells and steel mace. So these are actually ancient tools that people used to use for conditioning warriors.

Annette Clubley: Okay.

Jana Barrett: Female and male warriors. So I’m actually kind of building my own tribe of like really strong people. Yeah. And I often get inquiries about these tools. So I will sometimes work with people one-on-one. You know, yes over zoom and teach people how to swing and master these ancient tools, which are super [00:34:00] fun. Like…

Annette Clubley: Yeah. Yeah. I love that. I love that and really powerful, make you feel really powerful. I would imagine that the thing of it as you build up that strength.

Jana Barrett: Yeah. Yeah, quite incredible. When you teach someone how to swing these tools and you can have a look on my website, what they look like, because most people probably don’t know what a steel mace looks like, but it’s basically a really long stick with a ball at the end of it, whatever weight, I start beginners on four kilos and you can do these, you can dance with it pretty much, when you are moving with it is something between yoga and martial art, strength training, and dancing, you can get it.

Annette Clubley: Thai Chi is the first thing that comes to mind.

Jana Barrett: Absolutley. Thai Chi as well. Yeah. So it’s and it makes this thing, you have to think, you just cannot not think because things can go really wrong. This, this is a very dynamic tool you have in your hand. So yeah, so I will teach people that if they, if that’s, what’s calling to them,

Annette Clubley: Oh, [00:35:00] really fascinating. Very fascinating.

Okay. So the Facebook group is called midlife movement for women, and there is, what’s the, what’s the rest of the label?

Jana Barrett: It’s exercise, mobility and movement. I think. So I’ve just changed it last week. Cause I kind of realized that when you just say the mid-life movement, people are not necessarily sure what exactly like, is it like a revolution or…

Annette Clubley: It could be a midlife movement for women changing careers or it could be a midlife movement for women in the workplace, or anything? Yeah. Okay. Fair enough. Yeah.

Jana Barrett: So yeah, it is exercise, mobility. movement is the third thing. Yeah. There’s exercise and mobility training.

Annette Clubley: Okay. And you’ve mentioned the website a couple of times. What’s the website address?.

Jana Barrett: Yeah. So jana barrett.com.

Annette Clubley: Okay, great. That’s nice and easy. Yeah. I’ll pop those into the, I’ll put those links into the comments so that people can come and find you.

Thank you so, so much for taking the time to talk to me today, it’s been great fun. [00:36:00]

Jana Barrett: We’ve gone to lots of places, Annette. It’s great.

Annette Clubley: I’ll need to bring you back for another one talk and another talk on another topic, there’s so much we could talk about but yes,

Jana Barrett: We could talk about this for hours and hours and hours about human movement.

Annette Clubley: Yes.

Jana Barrett: Thank you so much for having me. This has been so lovely to have a chat to you.

You can find Jana at www.jana-barrett.com or join her Facebook group THE MIDLIFE MOVEMENT FOR WOMEN: exercise, movement and mobility